“Mammoth Voices” was started in 2016 with the intention of having “civic discourse”. Their golden rule is that they “always talk about issues, but never talk about people”. 

On Thursday, May 19, they welcomed Steve “Seth” Guthrie to speak for an hour. They asked him the same questions that they asked Lyna Salcido. Both are running for the District 5 seat of the Mono County Board of Supervisors. 

5 basic questions were asked to each candidate: describe the responsibilities of the leadership office, describe your leadership style, explain your understanding of budgets, name what you feel are significant issues facing the county, and, lastly, an opportunity for the candidate to share about themselves and what they enjoy doing in the area. 

 

“You made this clear to me that this wouldn’t be a debate format, correct? And that my answers will not be challenged by anyone through this format, correct?” said Guthrie before the first question was asked. 

Moderator Mickey Brown responded: “People may ask you questions, but civic discourse is not about challenging, but more so understanding peoples’ positions on issues.” 

“There’s a good amount of players on this particular meeting that have a complete understanding of my position,” responded Guthrie. 

 

Question 1: “What is your understanding about the responsibilities and duties of the position of County Supervisor, including what type of individual authority that a Supervisor has? Please share your individual experiences with working with boards or coalitions, and what kind of relationships you had on those coalitions.”

Guthrie: “According to the California State definition of the roles and duties and furthermore responsibilities of a Supervisor, it’s basically like Lynda said in her first opportunity with you guys: studying the priorities for the county, overseeing county budgets and each individual department, as well as supervising each individual conduct of public officers. I agree with that statement. Furthermore, I want to emphasize supervising the conduct of public officers, which I think has been a deficit and a liability on behalf of Mono County. I haven’t really been on a board, but I have ran multi-million dollar contracts in a city and county of San Diego. I have worked on quite a few military installations. I’ve worked on I would say at least half a dozen military installations, at least as far as door and window, and budget control systems, just doing overall remodels. So I was in charge of budgets to that degree. As far as an actual board, I would say that something I could relate to a board type of activity is that I belonged to a system of cop-watchers, and when they first started they were called “cop blockers”. And this particular organization would gather around the country and film and hold police accountable. And I tend to have a different way of doing that. After I figured out that the police were not the problem here in Mammoth Lakes and Mono County, that the Sheriff herself was not the problem and her deputies weren’t the problem, but that it was the bureaucrats and the elected officials who took it upon themselves to decide who was essential and who wasn’t essential, that kind of spurred and off-spurring of my time in San Diego being on this cop watcher affiliation, where we were able to hold cops accountable, we were able to have certain police officers removed from their position. I had an entire subdivision suspended, multiple investigations, and just applying the law and holding police accountable for all of their actions; that would include transparency. I don’t believe that an individual supervisor has the ability to fire anyone. That doesn’t happen, and that’s not part of the role as a superintendent. However, as a group of 5, to use logic and accountability, I think that they should be able to come to the decision regarding or maybe a member of the public that is not fulfilling their role as the contract stipulates. So that would complete my answer for number 1. Lynda is right to think that this is a group of five that makes this decision, but it’s not 20%, it’s actually the group of three that makes the decision. It is a group of three. Because it’s a majority vote. This group is ran like a democracy. So I will learn to play along with that democracy.” 

 

Question 2: “Considering that every civic leader has a different leadership style, please share your style with us. And how might your style help the Board be more effective in strategic planning and implementation? Please include some examples.” 

Guthrie: “Well first and foremost, I am a big fan of the small print. And every time there is a grant being offered to a county of a municipal power like Mammoth Lakes, there are always trade-offs. And this small print rarely ever gets released to the general public. When there’s closed sessions, when there’s behind-the-scenes meetings taking place where they’re discussing all of the trade-offs, it’s rarely viewed from the public eye. And many of the trade-offs that we encountered here in Mono County were the closure of businesses, were the restrictions implied, where the further financial burdens were applied to these already struggling small businesses. These threats and intimidation tactics from public officers walking into businesses that they favored and giving them warnings, giving them these threats and these warnings on if they don’t comply with these edicts -by the way, not a single one of them were lawful edicts, they were all mandates and there’s no obligation to follow a mandate, they’re clearly based on voluntary assignments, so the only thing that makes a mandate lawful would be your compliance. So I guess that my leadership tactic or leadership kind of, how I get to action here, would be to examine everything thoroughly and give that to the people so that they can examine it themselves. And get the feedback back for them. As a representative, I feel that I need to operate within the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. Anything outside of those principles really don’t have that much weight with me. We have an officer of the Constitution here, and I believe that she has said that to me on multiple occasions as of late, that she operates within the Constitution. As we move forward, I am very interested to see how she applies that to this county. But I think that completes my answer for that. As far as my leadership goes, I believe that by looking at the small print, that will lead a better path to accountability of our public officials; knowing what’s in the small print, knowing the decisions that they made, and how they help or bring consequences to our community, I think that’s a leadership style that I am going to bring to the table. I work with transparency, I’ve always worked within the law, and I am easy to find.”

 

Question 3: “I don’t know if you’ve had an opportunity to examine the county’s budget, it’s very complex, but if you have, we were curious about your understanding of the wide ranges of services and multiple funding services, and what your understanding is of those?” 

Guthrie: “I do have a couple of things on the county budget. I have had time to look at this. It’s really, really in depth. I am very impressed with our Director of Finances and Accounting. Janet has done a tremendous job. I believe that this budget report summary took more than 5 months to put together and she was able to go to each department, they gave an assignment to each department to put in their budgets, and she compiled this into a great report. And one of the things I took away from this report was the philosophy that she listed in there. And I believe I have this written down here. She’s able to take, basically- so about $125 million right now is what they say is going to be the budget. That was based on a 2021-2022 annual budget report. We have roughly $8 million in surplus based off that report. A lot of the downfall financially that the county endured was the result of that small print tradeoff; that closing of business, the lowering of TOT, some of that was kind of offset by the PPP, I don’t know how much those numbers, because those numbers aren’t really discussed in the budget. They didn’t really include a lot of the outside-source grants that came in. I saw a couple of them that they did include, so I will give her props on that, but we also have some programs within the budget that I think are kind of really frivolous. They really have no value to the county. For instance, we have a program in the county called ‘JEDI’, which is the ‘Justice, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion’ program, and it’s $30,000 a year. And that’s a drop in the bucket in a $125 million dollar budget, I understand this, however, but I see no need for a $30,000 virtue signal in Mono County. I am familiar with the terms used to create the word JEDI, I am familiar with those types of scenarios in life. I have been discriminated against, I have had a complete lack of opportunity having grown up in foster homes as a ward of the state, and I know damn well the difference between the privileged and unprivileged, the poversed and the oppressed. I’m very familiar. And these types of programs, they elicit a more fear-based, a more virtue-based, and more fueling-based line of funding, protection, status, and I don’t think that’s what the framers had in mind. I think the framers had in mind a more resilient, more self-made, self-ownership-based type vision for this country. So that’s a program I think we could do without. Also, we have an at-home visit program that is primarily focused on the illegals, or the, I should say ‘alien’ population that we have living in Mono County. Taxpayer dollars are funding a $1.8 million dollar operation where taxpayers pay for a salaried or hourly paid person to come in and give benefits to families with newborns. These are, most of the time, you have one green card, either the husband, or the wife, or a little bit of both, are here illegally. And they have no documentation yet, are able to get a drivers’ license and they are able to continue receiving these government benefits, which I had no say on. So my tax dollars are going to these programs, when they could definitely go to programs that could benefit the county a little more, like fire protection, keeping businesses open with existing prophylactics instead of emergency-use, experimental vaccines etc., but we can go on. I named two things that we could do without, I gave you the summit budget of the county, and that pretty much answers the question.” 

 

Mickey Brown: “Often candidates will make promises when they’re running for office, but then once they’re elected, there’s really tight constraints, even though the budget seems large, because of the mandated services they can only provide so much. I was curious if you have any expectations of promising new services?” 

Guthrie: “Not necessarily new services. I believe that the best form of government is the least amount of government. So if anything, I probably wouldn’t be adding anything, any additional outside services from what we have. I’ve looked at it- this county’s pretty well-covered in a lot of areas. I think that we could do more about the fire problem that we have. I do have some ideas for that. We could also do more for the lack of housing that we have, but I think that we could work internally with that; I don’t think that we need to add to the budget. When we take away a $1.8 million budget, we take away a $30,000 budget for a program that really does nothing, it just creates this kind of myth that there’s a problem with racism in the county, that there’s a problem with inequities in the county, and people don’t have access to this diversity. Lynda herself acknowledged that this town and county, regardless of the all-white Board of Supervisors, is full of diversity, and she’s absolutely right. We do not suffer from a lack of diversity in this county. 60-70% of the workforce in this county is Latino or Asian. So I don’t see it. I don’t identify with the program, and it’s costing us money where we don’t need to be spending it.”

 

Question 4: “You touched on it a bit, but can you expand on what you think the significant issues are going forward for the county?”

Guthrie: “I believe the question was what are the 3 most significant issues going forward with the county. I want to go back to Janet’s statement: ‘Adopting a structurally balanced budget where recurring expenditures are fully paid for with recurring revenue.’ And that’s an ideology I can get behind. That’s a fundamentally correct way to run a budget. And I support that 100%. The three most concerns I have in the county, number 1: not enough small print transparency. The public has a say on what the tradeoffs are. When the Board of Supervisors and Mammoth Lakes Town Council are having meetings, I just don’t see a whole lot of publishing of these obligations that are created with taking government grants. For instance, when we took a government grant in this county for masks being on public transportation, masking in public walkways, just in general wherever they felt they could get a mask on somebody they did it. They pushed the propaganda everywhere, you had your little propaganda signs on the glass of tax-payer-owned buildings telling people to ‘mask up’ and ‘together we can do this’, meanwhile, the science is completely the opposite. Anthony Fauci himself has discredited the use of a mask over and over again. So we’ll go from like a point A, to a point B, and a point C on this. I will push further transparency, I will reject any future closing of business. I will not trade freedom and liberty for safety and security at any time. We were warned about this type of action, we were warned about this type of activity, and if you start trading your freedoms and liberty for safety and security, you will most likely receive none of the above. So that’s a very important task we must keep our eyes on. Also, the framers envisioned this country as a Republic, not a Democracy, with minimal government. I think as adults here, we should have the ability to decide what is best for ourselves. Whether it be the freedom of a medical decision, the choice to keep our business open, to continue working, if we want to mask we’ll mask, if we don’t want to mask we won’t mask. I find it very compelling, very interesting, that ‘my body my choice’ is now the topic of discussion when it comes to a woman and what choice she makes on her body, but when it comes to a vaccine in a person, they don’t have that choice. There are many bureaucrats and elected officials in Mono County that have said that they feel that there’s a grave concern among the unvaccinated. And for instance, ‘what are we going to do about these unvaccinated cops?’ is a statement I heard from a public official. And I will tell you that it’s very concerning, if the day should ever come, where this county or town try to force mandated vaccines on law enforcement. This county and town will lose some great police officers. They might lose an entire department in the town of Mammoth Lakes. So we should all be very concerned about the future of this county in regards to mandates. So I see it as a very big problem. We also have, again, this is something that we should all be paying attention to: these square miles. The total square miles in Mono County, 3,030 square miles in Mono County. Of that, we have high snowfall in certain regions and we have areas in the county where it’s minimal snowfall. We have rich soil. We have an opportunity to make relationships between farmers and ranchers that could build a sovereign state where we’d have our own food sources. We could have year-round farmer’s markets if we were to build the type of year-round structures that would allow us to have these indoor growers and we could find grants and surpluses. I’m sure we could do like some trade-offs on what we already have. We could also keep that internal. We could incentivize property owners. There’s a housing shortage here, we have people with second homes, they visit these homes maybe once or twice a year. Incentivize it. Get rid of the local taxes on these houses. Incentivize it, put in subsidies, make the rent affordable. There are ways, they’re putting these pods inside of homes now and creating a house that’s got 4 bedrooms in it to accommodate 8-10 people. There’s a lot of ways to really work internally to solve some of the county’s biggest problems. And I thank you for your time on that one.” 

 

Question 5: “I think it’s really important for all our leaders to be a politician in a county that they really like and enjoy. So we were just really curious, what’re your favorite ways to spend time in Mono County?”

Answers: “Yeah, the question was what are my three favorite places in Mono County. I am a big fan of Bridgeport, although I don’t find my way out there too often, gas is a little ridiculous right now. I have an off-road vehicle that I like to drive around the trails, and I’ll go out there and I’ll camp and I’ll bring the dog. I moved up here 7 or 8 years ago, but I’ve been coming here for 20+ years. I told myself that if I could ever find a way to make a living up here, that I would move here. And I did find that. And I am very pleased with my life up here, up until Covid. Up until Covid, I thought that -in fact, my first introduction to the Sheriff, it was great, she was very welcoming and cordial and it was inside the post office and I had thanked her for her position on the Second Amendment. She is a will-issue sheriff, as far as the Second Amendment goes, and I think that’s a great accomplishment for any county to have a sheriff that’s willing to take that platform. That kind of solidified me living up here full time. I kind of thought that the county was in good hands. I still feel that the county is in good hands with some of the people here. We’re not going to get into specifics, so yeah, Bridgeport, camping, obviously the snowboarding -I’ve been snowboarding for more than 20 years. I really really enjoy being on a board. I enjoy being out there with Mother Nature. There are times when I’m on fresh powder and I shut the music off and I just embrace that moment. I’ve been in some epic, epic blue bird moments on that mountain, and I will live here until the end of my days if I can kind of change just some few things. I just want to make some slight adjustments. I want a little bit more freedom, and a little less feeling-based activities in the county. Again, Mammoth Lakes, that’s why I live here in the particular town, and the wilderness trails; I like being outdoors, I like being a part of Mother Nature, I like staring at trees. So, that pretty much sums up what I enjoy about Mono County.”

 

Mickey Brown: “Well thank you for answering my initial questions. Are you ready to take some questions from the participants on the call?”

Guthrie: “Can’t wait!” 

Mickey Brown: “While they are formulating their questions, I do have one other question. In the Mammoth Times interview, you made some comments about water and what you thought we should do as a county as far as water goes. I wasn’t sure I really understood them, so maybe you could expound on that a little bit for us?” 

Guthrie: “Yeah, there’s a great resource out there for anybody who’s interested in doing some further research. There’s a lady whose name is Deborah Tavares and she is the founder of a website called StopTheCrime.net. She’s not environmentally-driven, as some would think. She just happens to have the knowledge on a few pre-existing water systems that have always been with us. And one of those systems is called ‘primary water’, and it’s something that the mainstream news doesn’t talk about. It’s something that just doesn’t align with the drought narrative. Do we have a problem with water shortages? We do. Based on our current, I guess ‘system’ and relationship with the L.A. Water District, we are somehow in a constant battle with them. If we were to invest more into primary water, start building our own wells and doing our own testing- as we are now, I understand the water board has rejected multiple offers to bring in outside testing sources, which I congratulate them in this step. I think as a sovereign board they have the right to make that decision, and they can continue moving forward as a sovereign agency. I’m the same with Mono County when it comes to water. I don’t think we’re pushing back hard enough. I think there’s too many hands in the cookie jar regarding the water dilemma in the county. I can’t share all my ideas at this point, but I do have some ideas that I think will be structurally sound when I do bring them to the table.”

 

The virtual meeting then opened up for attendees to be able to ask Guthrie specific questions. The following questions were asked: 

 

Kate: “So Seth, you have a very distinct point of view, and you’re very clear and outspoken in how you present it. I am wondering, if elected, how you would deal with people who have an opposite or different point of view, who are still your constituents, and how you would react to them?” 

Guthrie: “I would like an understanding of the term ‘constituent’. I mean I have my own belief on what it is, but can somebody fill me in on ‘constituent’?”

Kate: “Well, if you were elected, I would consider your constituents all of the people who reside in District 5.”

Guthrie: “That’s right. All the people I represent are my constituents.”

Kate: “Yes. And they all don’t have the same point of view as you do.”

Guthrie: “They don’t. However, if my point of view is aligned with the law, whether it be common law, Constitutional law, the Declaration of Independence, or the Magna Carta, I think that I have lawful standing. If someone’s point of view is built on feelings or virtue signals, they won’t be discredited by me, they won’t be disrespected by me. This is America. We have this incredible, incredible right to free speech, and to this innate, immutable right to have the pursuit of happiness. And that includes financial gain. That includes having your own feelings and positions. If you want to call yourself a particular pronoun, that’s on you. You want to dress a certain way, want to wear a pair of sunglasses, you want to paint your car a certain color, you want to grow certain vegetables in your yard, you don’t want to eat meat, you know, you make these lifestyle choices, that’s on you. Not anybody else. These are choices you make for yourself. And the same could be said for medical freedom. That’s where I lose them. It’s this medical freedom that’s on the table right now, and some people think that we shouldn’t have that, that some free speech should be suppressed. These are concerns I have. So no, people are entitled to have their own opinion and they’re not going to be disrespected from me for that, but obviously people have seen me in the public. I am not shy about it at all. People have seen me in the public, confronting others with a mask on. If you were up close and personal listening to the dialogue, it’s simply the occasional statement I am usually making, like ‘that mask does more harm than good, and that has been proven to be fact.’ And that’s actually proven that the mask, according to Anthony Fauci, was the #1 cause of death. It led to bacterial pneumonia inside the mask. This is Anthony Fauci’s report in 2008. So if I’m educating the public who has a different opinion than I do, then I think I’m doing them a service rather than a disservice. So yeah, I will not disrespect or get in the way of other people’s feelings or opinions. But when it comes to the law, I am not going to take into consideration people’s feelings. I think it’s completely irrelevant. Feelings do not win in court.”

 

Greg Newbry: “I liked your comment about the law. I think the law in a democracy is really important. That’s the basics of everything. And the Constitution is designed to change with the times; it’s not static. We’re a country of law. Do you think law passed and adopted by the Supreme Court, the Congress, local jurisdictions, are correct and should be followed? Or simply your own opinion of the Constitution? Which is sort of an anarchistic view of democracy.”

Seth: “According to Madison vs. Marbury in 1970’s case law, anything outside of the Constitution is repugnant. And that’s kind of where I stand on anything; if it has to do with personal freedoms, medical freedoms, closing one’s business, wearing a mask on a bus that’s paid for by tax dollars, walking into a public building that’s paid for by tax dollars, and having to succumb to these mandates, I will never support that. I am for 100% free choice, personal choice, and self-responsibility and self-ownership. This state doesn’t own you. You asked the question- the Supreme Court. When the Supreme Court passed certain laws or they make certain rulings, right? They don’t pass laws, they make rulings. The Supreme Court, SCOTUS, the Supreme Court of the United States as rule: that law enforcement and public officials have no duty to individual citizen safety. So I don’t know what that means to you guys, but to me, it says that we are responsible for our own safety. The majority of times that a crime is committed, the cops and sheriff’s department are there to clean it up, take reports, and get witnesses. They prepare a court case. They are rarely there to prevent the crime. I hope that answers your question.” 

 

Gaylon Teslaa: “One of the issues we’re confronting is the mining around Hot Creek. This is a very sensitive ecological area. I’d like to hear you speak to the rights of miners versus the people of Mono County, and how you might stand on that matter.”

Guthrie: “Quite frankly, gold and silver and precious metals are going to be the future of this country. There are many in denial of this, and I think that these miners are doing a service for this county. The TOT that could come from this, we could introduce other programs that could come from this. I do believe that we need to be very watchful on the waterways here. We need to be very concerned about the existing regulation, and maybe if we need further regulation on how they’re treating the water runoff and how their operation affects natural waterways. And of course water tables underneath the ground. We need to be very concerned about this. But I do support an active gold mine program down there at Hot Creek. Hope that answers your question.”

 

Mickey Brown: “Let me go back to your comment about the risk of fire. I think everybody’s a little worried about this summer after a fairly low snowfall. So what are your thoughts about forest fires and how we should fight them?”

Guthrie: “How we should fight them? I think we should look at more prevention so that we are not fighting forest fires. We need to be out there holding those accountable, these electric companies that have been found to be at-fault for particular fires around Southern California and the central area. There’s not enough penalty in line for that. Up here, we do have certain protocols in place; high-wind shut-offs are in place up here. And I see that they use those very, very infrequently. Which, if it’s not needed then don’t use it, but we do have these programs in place. And let’s talk a little more intimately about supervision around the out-of-town, out-of-the-city areas within the county. There are, there is room within this budget, especially if we could cease some programs, that will have a more supervisorial ‘attack’ if you will on illegal fires, people not getting correct permits. Look, I bought permits every year I came here when I was not living here full-time. When I moved here full-time, I was extra diligent about it. I had my permit in my glovebox, if not on my person when I had a fire going. I never once got inspected. I never once got asked for it. In fact, I see people coming and going from campsites, no shovel, no bucket of water, no preparedness, no education. There’s no stop and check on this. I don’t see that happening. I carry a shovel, I carry water, you know I am a guy, I am an outdoor tech and I fancy myself an outdoor tech. So, I don’t this type of responsibility being enacted on any one agency within the county. Obviously I think it falls on the fire department and forest service agency, and of course there’s a moral aspect that falls on mankind ourselves. I have put multiple fires out that have been left behind. I take my vehicle out there, I ride way out to these fire roads, and I’ll see vacated, still-smoldering fires and I’ll do it myself. Now, there’s another problem that we have. This county, and specifically the Town of Mammoth Lakes, there’s an enabling process happening as we speak. The homeless are being given this ‘go ahead and camp out, bring your couch and your coffee table’ and just abide by laws, though that’s breaking the law right there. Alright, and now they want to put a bathroom? Further enabling. Do you think that these individuals, each and every one of them, are going out and getting a fire permit? I doubt it. Where’s the enforcement? Who’s going to clean the bathroom? Okay, so we’re going to have a budget where there’s no revenue coming in, it’s just going to be an expenditure. There’s no revenue coming in from a homeless encampment. They come up here unprepared, and all of a sudden Mammoth Lakes and Mono County are responsible for their lack of proper decision making and lack of planning? Now we have to take on this burden and give them a bathroom and say it’s okay to sleep here? No. That’s unacceptable in my view. Sorry it’s a hard line. Sorry it doesn’t align with the strong feeling-based community here, but we somehow got to right this ship and it can’t be based on feelings and feelings alone. Go ahead. Hope that answers your question.”

 

Bill Sauser: “So your comments on the homeless encampments and everything else, give me your take on the different roles and responsibilities and what we’re able to do outside of the town boundaries, as a town on the government land that is not owned by Mono County, in terms of enforcing those. Because there are separations of duties here. So I would love to hear your take and your understanding on that.”

Guthrie: “This particular position is for the county, so I would have no say or influence on the town. As far as the outskirts of Mammoth Lakes within the county, I think the sheriff is obligated to join the club for fire prevention. I think if she has the resources, she should be applying it where it counts in these outside regions of Mammoth. If we don’t have the resources of the jurisdiction to get there, and the sheriff does, then she takes it upon herself and her department to put together such resources and a program, and I would be more than happy to work with her on the logistics of such a thing. As far as inside of the the town of Mammoth Lakes, that’s probably just a discussion to have- should Lynda be successful in her mission for the county seat- I would turn right around and be happy to join you as a member of Town Council. Thanks for the question.”

 

Ingrid Braun: “I don’t have a question, I just wanted to answer what you brought up. We do have a program that we started when we saw an influx of dispersed camping. It’s called ‘Camp Like a Pro’ and it’s a collaborative effort between the county and the town and forest service, BLM and DWP, all the different land owners, to help people understand what the rules are and what they should and shouldn’t do when they do camp. And we do have a response program for sheriff’s office, fire departments, forest service, DWP, BLM- one point of contact being the sheriff’s office because we’re the dispatch to when we hear reports of bad behavior out in camping, to go out and advise people on what they’re doing, make arrests as appropriate, and stop people from camping where they’re not supposed to camp. Especially on DWP land around Grant Lake. So we do have a collaborative program to address that situation, in the county and in the town because it is collaborative amongst all of the agencies.”

 

Brian Null: “I saw an article that says, ‘According to Guthrie, Covid-19 vaccinations being disseminated have gene-editing software that will be used to harm people.’ And that’s from December. I wanted to ask, is that true? Is that your belief? And if so, how did you form that belief?”

Guthrie: “It’s not my belief, this is documented material. You can find this on the NHA, the NIH website. You can also find this technology review on the CDC website. MRNA is a gene-editing technology. It’s not a software, it’s a technology. Whereas they are able to make specific changes to the existing human DNA. It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. So, I am not sure how it was worded in that article, is this an article that I haven’t seen? Or is this my bio that was in The Mammoth Times? And you should know that both The Mammoth Times and The Sheet- by the way, The Sheet is not getting any of my time and will not be getting an interview from me. I feel that they are the most biased newspaper probably in Northern California.”

Brian Null: “So that was The Sheet in December. And I just wanted to add, I’m actually a published research scientist. I’ve done lots of research, I’ve used lots of mRNA. It’s short for ‘messenger RNA’, and it’s certainly not a technology. It’s a kind of molecule. So I think if you’re going to flesh out this argument, you are going to have to look deeper.”

Guthrie: “Are we having a debate here? Are we going to debate this right now? Because I could share my screen, I could show-”

Brian Null: “No, I am asking an additional question. I am just saying that you said that mRNA is a technology, it’s, it’s-”

Guthrie: “These are the words of Bourla, these are the words of the founder, these are the words of the CEO of Pfizer, these are the words of Robert Malone, which was one of the founders of the mRNA technology. Yeah, it’s gene-editing technology. But again, this is my research, and this is your opinion it sounds like.”

Brian Null: “No, I’m just stating facts and I am asking you for an explanation.”

Mickey Brown: “I think you asked your question, do you have another question?”

Brian Null: “Yeah, I didn’t quite understand how, or what he means by a ‘software-editing technology’ and how he reached that conclusion.”

Guthrie: “I reached that conclusion because the founder, the inventor of the mRNA technology, told the world that it was gene-editing technology.”

Brian Zero: “Okay. Thanks.” 

 

Joyce Kaufman: “Seth, in your interview with the Mammoth Times on May 12, you say that you would change any obligation to the state or the federal government. If that’s the case, should Mono County take funds from the federal infrastructure bill, or from the governor or state, from the budget surplus, if they could benefit Mono County? Could you please explain your point of view on that.” 

Guthrie: “Again, the small print’s important here. So if I’m gonna review an option or an opportunity for a grant, I need to know every bit of what the trade-offs are. If I don’t know what the trade-offs are, and I can’t make a logical conclusion out of them, then that won’t get my vote. I guess my main position on future grants and funding from outside of the county, either it be the state or federal government, is if it has to do with the closing of a small business, I’m not signing onto it. That sacrifice, in my view, has been a horrible mistake on behalf of this county. So, as a member of the board, I’m one. I’m 20%. That’s what you said. But that board is also sovereign. And they do have the ability to tell a federal agency, or a state agency, or this government that they reject their grant, that they reject their program, because they don’t like the small print. They don’t like what the trade-off is. You took- I’m not going to blame anyone in particular, but- the board chose to take funding, and a part of that exchange was to close businesses. And they were able to determine, via the advice from the government, who was essential and who wasn’t. To me, that’s just unacceptable. It’s unacceptable. And there’s no science that says ‘closing a business slows the spread of some virus.’ Hope that answers your question.” 

Guthrie’s closing comments: “I am willing to keep an open mind on both sides of this equation. And it’s sad that there’s basically only two sides being outlined here, but there’s many things that have not been discussed. There’s an emergency status in this town that is still in existence. And it’s got no bearing. It’s got no lawful standing. There has been proven prophylactics since April of 2020. It preceded the vaccine. The report came from DARPA, essentially the U.S. Pentagon, and the report said in April of 2020 that ivermectin is a cure-all for all phases of Covid-19. This is the word of the United States government. This information was then hand-delivered to the CDC, NIH and the FDA. This information was suppressed, and they continued forward with their emergency status on an experimental ‘vaccine’. This vaccine is under experimental use. The fact that there’s a proven, existing prophylactic that this Mono County hasn’t addressed, makes this current emergency status unlawful. And I will stand by that notion and I will continue to pursue any means necessary to nullify this emergency status. As far as my position with the county, I hope that my constituents see and feel the urgency in the county for real change. For someone who is not conflicted by any previous or past or present interests. I have no conflicts with anyone, public official, or company or corporation in this county. And I would implore everybody to reach out to me at any time. I’m easy to talk to. If you give me an opportunity, I’ll break down all the facts. Brian- themechanicknows@gmail.com. I will send you the information if you want it. I’ll give you my sources. As most of you know, I am on the radio. I have direct access to many doctors and physicians that would join me at future board meetings. So, I will bring the facts to the table if given an opportunity. And I want to thank everyone for showing up, thank you for your continued service Lynda and Bill, as well as the sheriff, and I am looking forward to being a part of Mono County politics. I think that I can add a refreshing, yet- you’re gonna have to get used to somebody who just calls it. You know? I’m not gonna be there to protect feelings. I’m there to protect our rights. So thank you everybody.”